1951 Chow Hound uncut - where?

[tony holdgate]

my first posting to this group. I'm trying to find Chow Hound - 1951 but not
the clean version. It's gotta have the last scene where the dog gets force
fed the gravy. I'm happy to buy it on DVD, VCD or even video, download it
legally or illegally- I don't care!

If anyone can help I appreciate it

Tony

[Markc65]

Post by tony holdgate
I'm trying to find Chow Hound - 1951 but not
the clean version. It's gotta have the last scene where the dog gets force
fed the gravy. I'm happy to buy it on DVD, VCD or even video,

Chow Hound is available, uncut, on the laserdisc "Looney Tunes: Assorted Nuts"
by Warner Home Video.

[James Allen]

Post by Markc65

Post by tony holdgate
I'm trying to find Chow Hound - 1951 but not
the clean version. It's gotta have the last scene where the dog gets force
fed the gravy. I'm happy to buy it on DVD, VCD or even video,

Chow Hound is available, uncut, on the laserdisc "Looney Tunes: Assorted Nuts"
by Warner Home Video.

"Chow Hound" has to contain one of the most ruthlessly ironic endings I've ever
seen in a cartoon. The dog's comeuppance is clearly deserved, but my initial
reaction was an odd combination of laughter and uneasiness (as I briefly
contemplated what it would be like to be force fed food after being full.)
Still and all, it's one of my favorites, mostly for having the nerve to be
somewhat different and a tad darker that your average LT.

[Rachel Newstead]

Hello,

I have mixed feelings about the cartoon. One the one hand, it's
hilarious--to this day, when my mother would serve gravy with a meal, she'll
say "This time I didn't forget the gravy!" (She loves that cartoon).
But....it gives me an uneasy feeling, nonetheless, for the same reasons it
does you. Much like a lot of the Famous Studios cartoons do (particularly
"Finnegan's Flea.")

Chuck Jones did seem to be going through a "gothic" phase at the time.
Remember his really eerie Porky Pig cartoons (with and without Sylvester?)
What a turnaround from the Disneyish stuff he'd been doing just a few years
earlier.

Rachel

Post by James Allen

Post by James Allen
"Chow Hound" has to contain one of the most ruthlessly ironic endings I've ever

seen in a cartoon. The dog's comeuppance is clearly deserved, but my initial
reaction was an odd combination of laughter and uneasiness (as I briefly
contemplated what it would be like to be force fed food after being full.)
Still and all, it's one of my favorites, mostly for having the nerve to be
somewhat different and a tad darker that your average LT.

[Walt Sellers]

Post by Rachel Newstead
Hello,
I have mixed feelings about the cartoon. One the one hand, it's
hilarious--to this day, when my mother would serve gravy with a meal, she'll
say "This time I didn't forget the gravy!" (She loves that cartoon).
But....it gives me an uneasy feeling, nonetheless, for the same reasons it
does you. Much like a lot of the Famous Studios cartoons do (particularly
"Finnegan's Flea.")
Chuck Jones did seem to be going through a "gothic" phase at the time.
Remember his really eerie Porky Pig cartoons (with and without Sylvester?)
What a turnaround from the Disneyish stuff he'd been doing just a few years
earlier.
Rachel

You ought to put that in the thread about using WB lines in real life.

Chuck Jones' bigger theme was to parody popular movies. (Probably
especially good move given the short was shown theatrically.) Maybe the
movie being parodied was running or recently ran. And didn't Chuck
Jones talk about loving to hear the audience in the theater? He could
be checking the results and getting his next idea in the same trip.

Chow Hound did have a bit of a Hitchcock feel to it (not that I've seen
a lot of Hitchcock films.)

[Vince Macek]

Post by Walt Sellers

Post by Rachel Newstead
Hello,
I have mixed feelings about the cartoon. One the one hand, it's
hilarious--to this day, when my mother would serve gravy with a meal, she'll
say "This time I didn't forget the gravy!" (She loves that cartoon).
But....it gives me an uneasy feeling, nonetheless, for the same reasons it
does you. Much like a lot of the Famous Studios cartoons do (particularly
"Finnegan's Flea.")
Chuck Jones did seem to be going through a "gothic" phase at the time.
Remember his really eerie Porky Pig cartoons (with and without Sylvester?)
What a turnaround from the Disneyish stuff he'd been doing just a few years
earlier.
Rachel

You ought to put that in the thread about using WB lines in real life.
Chuck Jones' bigger theme was to parody popular movies. (Probably
especially good move given the short was shown theatrically.) Maybe the
movie being parodied was running or recently ran. And didn't Chuck
Jones talk about loving to hear the audience in the theater? He could
be checking the results and getting his next idea in the same trip.
Chow Hound did have a bit of a Hitchcock feel to it (not that I've seen
a lot of Hitchcock films.)

The opening of Freleng's "Birds Anonymous" is certainly Hitchcockian
(and they played that up directly in a later cartoon using a lot of
the same shots)

I have heard Chow Hound described as having an E.C. comics feel.


The last few times I saw it on tv they left the payoff ending
intact...but they did cut the zoo scene with the mortified mouse done
up like an Ubangi bearer.

Still one of my all-time favorites.

VMacek

[Steve Carras]

Post by Vince Macek

Post by Walt Sellers

Post by Rachel Newstead
Hello,
I have mixed feelings about the cartoon. One the one hand, it's
hilarious--to this day, when my mother would serve gravy with a meal, she'll
say "This time I didn't forget the gravy!" (She loves that cartoon).
But....it gives me an uneasy feeling, nonetheless, for the same reasons it
does you. Much like a lot of the Famous Studios cartoons do (particularly
"Finnegan's Flea.")
Chuck Jones did seem to be going through a "gothic" phase at the time.
Remember his really eerie Porky Pig cartoons (with and without Sylvester?)
What a turnaround from the Disneyish stuff he'd been doing just a few years
earlier.
Rachel

You ought to put that in the thread about using WB lines in real life.
Chuck Jones' bigger theme was to parody popular movies. (Probably
especially good move given the short was shown theatrically.) Maybe the
movie being parodied was running or recently ran. And didn't Chuck
Jones talk about loving to hear the audience in the theater? He could
be checking the results and getting his next idea in the same trip.
Chow Hound did have a bit of a Hitchcock feel to it (not that I've seen
a lot of Hitchcock films.)

The opening of Freleng's "Birds Anonymous" is certainly Hitchcockian
(and they played that up directly in a later cartoon using a lot of
the same shots)

Which would be LAST HUNGRY CAT (1961), also a Freleng Sylvester-Tweety short.

[Markc65]

Post by Rachel Newstead
Chuck Jones did seem to be going through a "gothic" phase at the time.
Remember his really eerie Porky Pig cartoons (with and without Sylvester?)
What a turnaround from the Disneyish stuff he'd been doing just a few years
earlier.

That might have had something to do with the fact that Mike Maltese was
assigned to the Jones unit as sole writer in the late forties, after Jones had
used the talents of Tedd Pierce for years. Mike Maltese had a tough childhood,
living in poverty in Brooklyn. I think Maltese infused Jones' cartoons, wich
tended to be somewhat mild and sweet-tempered, with some necessary gloom.

[Jim Bennie]

Post by James Allen
"Chow Hound" has to contain one of the most ruthlessly ironic endings I've ever
seen in a cartoon. The dog's comeuppance is clearly deserved, but my initial
reaction was an odd combination of laughter and uneasiness

Which is probably why Jones' cartoons tend to be praised - they're more
than just parody or funny situations. Certainly, something like 'Chow
Hound' would never come from the McKimson unit of the same era.

Jim

[mlipcsik]

Tony...did you ever find the uncut Chow Hound Video?

I've been searching for quite some time for the uncut version on DVD, VHS
or as as an mpeg file. LaserDisk is probably the only media that I can't
use or convert.

I've been quoting that Cartoon for years and finding it has now turned
into an obsession.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Michael

[vidrare]

CHOW HOUND was indeed un-cut on the laserdisc I got years ago. I still have
it. JF

Post by mlipcsik
Tony...did you ever find the uncut Chow Hound Video?
I've been searching for quite some time for the uncut version on DVD, VHS
or as as an mpeg file. LaserDisk is probably the only media that I can't
use or convert.
I've been quoting that Cartoon for years and finding it has now turned
into an obsession.
Thanks in advance for any help.
Michael